The hug in the episode Equation Possible Spolier!!

[ashbee]

Did anyone notice the way Marshall(Noah Reid) smiled when Corrine hugged him?

[Mac]

Yes. The show's writers were purposefully developing a relationship between the characters of Marshall and Corrine during the second season, pushing it even stronger during the third.

[Gouki]

Except they didn't really push it in the third, except for Friction.

[Mac]

Jan 27, 2010 3:43:38 GMT -5 Gouki said:

Except they didn't really push it in the third, except for Friction.

And Allure.

[jrapsas]

For the record, the Marshall/Corrine relationship was written into the show bible, before even the first script was written. Here are my character descriptions from the original bible, which was written about three years before the show went into production. As you'll see, Corrine has a different last name and the characters aren't exactly the same as they ended up being in the series:

CORRINE BREYER

Corrine, a fourteen year old African-American girl, is a standout student at Blake Holsey High. Focused and determined, Corrine has always had to be best at everything she’s ever done. You name the class, she’s gotten an “A” in it, while at the same time managing to be a star athlete in both tennis and volleyball. Both her parents are doctors, over-achievers who beat the odds, and they expect nothing less from Corrine. Corrine has no intention of letting them down.

Corrine has always been highly competitive and she’s gotten used to being the only girl in all the tough science and math classes. So she isn’t sure how she feels when Josie joins the club. But rather than being threatened by Josie, Corrine is surprised to find that she likes having another girl around. There isn’t any cattyness between them like with a lot of girls in school and Corrine finds it pretty hysterical when together she and Josie end up showing the guys that science isn’t just a boy’s game.

Corrine and Josie become fast friends and confidants. And when Lucas starts to get angry at Josie for her friendship with Vaughn, Corrine is invariably the one that Josie turns to for advice. But what about Corrine’s social life? Well she’s never been a social butterfly and has always put her academic and athletic activities first. But since kindergarten, she’s had one friend who’s always been there for her. Lately, he’s starting to get on her nerves more than ever. It seems that the older they get, the more they disagree and argue. Still, at the end of the day she can’t imagine what life would be like without Marshall Wheeler.

MARSHALL WHEELER

Marshall, a fourteen year old Caucasian boy, is pretty much what you’d expect to see in a science club. Yes, he’s a geek and he wears the label proudly. After all, with the proliferation of computers and the internet, being a nerd isn’t nearly the form of social leprosy it once was. But he’s still not about to start telling the school that he has every episode of Star Trek: Voyager on tape or that he still collects Pokemon cards. After all, Marshall is at the age where he’s starting to notice girls and he does have a reputation to protect… sort of.

If only girls weren’t so….complicated. Becoming a teenager, Marshall says, is like entering a great unknown. Marshall hates unknowns. That’s why he sticks to things that he knows he’s good at, like math, science and computers. So if he’s so afraid of unknowns, why does he stay in a club where anything and everything can and does happen? Two words. Corrine Breyer. He knows how dangerous the club can be and wouldn’t be able to live with himself if something were to happen to her and he wasn’t there to watch her back. No matter how much they may sometimes annoy each other she’s still his best friend and that’s what best friends are for.

[Gouki]

I remember Hail mentioning that yonks ago, but I just never found it... implemented very well. At least not in a way that didn't seem one sided for Corrine (most episodes it featured in, which I didn't really notice untill Season two sometime) or forced, like Friction.

[Mac]

I agree with Gouki. But I think its one of the pitfalls of needing to fulfill external requirements that their relationship got the treatment it did. JVL had to have room to fuel the underlying plot, so CM got the "lesson of the day sideshow" treatment.

No other show I know of has the creator come in and weigh in on their debates. Have I mentioned how cool that is?

Jan 29, 2010 2:28:18 GMT -5 jrapsas said:

After all, with the proliferation of computers and the internet, being a nerd isn’t nearly the form of social leprosy it once was. But he’s still not about to start telling the school that he has every episode of Star Trek: Voyager on tape or that he still collects Pokemon cards.

LOL, social leprosy. And hey, I think I still have my old Pokemon cards in a shoebox somewhere.

[jrapsas]

I know I keep saying this, but if we had gotten to a full season 4, the Corrine/Marshall relationship would have gotten a lot more interesting and been important to the central plot. The seeds planted in FRICTION would have been sown...we would have blown up all the relationships in the show and put everyone in turmoil.

[ashbee]

Feb 1, 2010 11:13:33 GMT -5 jrapsas said:

I know I keep saying this, but if we had gotten to a full season 4, the Corrine/Marshall relationship would have gotten a lot more interesting and been important to the central plot. The seeds planted in FRICTION would have been sown...we would have blown up all the relationships in the show and put everyone in turmoil.

Oh now Im wishing you guys had made more. Why did you guys stop anyway? It was getting so good!

[jrapsas]

Hi ashbee. So great to see new fans of the show here over four years since the premiere of our last original episode!

Brief timeline of the show's production...

We were greenlit in the spring of 2002 and season 1 was produced in the Summer & Fall of 2002.

Seasons 2 & 3 were produced back to back in the Summer and Fall of 2003, but Season 3 didn't air in the U.S. until 2004.

There was a lot of interest in a Season 4 both in the U.S. and internationally, but there was an ill-fated decision made at the network to go for National Science Foundation funding (basically to save money). It was a long process and it took over six months to get a decision, but the show was rejected sometime in the end of 2004.

At this point, it was looking pretty certain that Discovery Kids would no longer be programming the NBC block and with that, the network started spending less money on original programming. The best we could do was get the commitment from Discovery Kids to produce the CONCLUSIONS movie to close out the series. (It was later cut into three episodes.)

Immediately after CONCLUSIONS, I still made attempts to keep the franchise going with a "next generation" series. I wrote an outline for another movie called HYPOTHESIS, in which Victor and Sarah Pearson had opened a new Blake Holsey High at a new location. Z, Durst, the Janitor, Victor and Sarah were returning characters. Josie was the only returning member of the science club since she still had a year of school to finish and had not yet graduated. Four new science club members were introduced. In the movie you learn that Victor is up to his old tricks, has re-opened Pearadyne and is continuing his time travel research. The movie concludes with Josie learning that Avenir still has forces loyal to him (Tyler chiefly among them) that are trying to bring him back. Josie leaves to deal with the pressing Avenir problem, leaving the new science club and Z to deal with the results of Victor's new experiments. Unfortunately, the money wasn't there to get it off the ground.

As I said in another post, I'm working on a new version of the series that takes place at least five years after CONCLUSIONS. Still in the early stages of it, but you all will be the first to know if I have any luck making it happen.

[ashbee]

Feb 3, 2010 10:30:48 GMT -5 jrapsas said:

Hi ashbee. So great to see new fans of the show here over four years since the premiere of our last original episode!

Brief timeline of the show's production...

We were greenlit in the spring of 2002 and season 1 was produced in the Summer & Fall of 2002.

Seasons 2 & 3 were produced back to back in the Summer and Fall of 2003, but Season 3 didn't air in the U.S. until 2004.

There was a lot of interest in a Season 4 both in the U.S. and internationally, but there was an ill-fated decision made at the network to go for National Science Foundation funding (basically to save money). It was a long process and it took over six months to get a decision, but the show was rejected sometime in the end of 2004.

At this point, it was looking pretty certain that Discovery Kids would no longer be programming the NBC block and with that, the network started spending less money on original programming. The best we could do was get the commitment from Discovery Kids to produce the CONCLUSIONS movie to close out the series. (It was later cut into three episodes.)

Immediately after CONCLUSIONS, I still made attempts to keep the franchise going with a "next generation" series. I wrote an outline for another movie called HYPOTHESIS, in which Victor and Sarah Pearson had opened a new Blake Holsey High at a new location. Z, Durst, the Janitor, Victor and Sarah were returning characters. Josie was the only returning member of the science club since she still had a year of school to finish and had not yet graduated. Four new science club members were introduced. In the movie you learn that Victor is up to his old tricks, has re-opened Pearadyne and is continuing his time travel research. The movie concludes with Josie learning that Avenir still has forces loyal to him (Tyler chiefly among them) that are trying to bring him back. Josie leaves to deal with the pressing Avenir problem, leaving the new science club and Z to deal with the results of Victor's new experiments. Unfortunately, the money wasn't there to get it off the ground.

As I said in another post, I'm working on a new version of the series that takes place at least five years after CONCLUSIONS. Still in the early stages of it, but you all will be the first to know if I have any luck making it happen.

Oh I can't wait.

Yeah, I love the show! I could watch all the episodes all day if I could. (I wake up early in the morning just to watch it! )

[strange1991]

Hey, I'm new here. I remember watching this show when it originally aired and have liked it ever since. I finally came across the episodes again including Conclusions and re watched every minute of it. Still love the show, and I can't wait to find out whether there will be a new version of the series, but i would love for a short movie or episode that brings back the original science club members and see them work as a team again, i'd also like to see how there characters are doing and where they are 5 yrs later.

[jrapsas]

Welcome Strange 1991! Check the Creator's Corner for info about the potential future of the BHH franchise. I am working on a couple of things that will hopefully see the light of day in the future.

As for something between now and then, I had thought about trying to do some web-isodes with some of the cast to keep the franchise alive. Problem is, I am in LA and they are all in Canada! Also very busy at the moment, working on some other projects, but it is something I'd really like to do.

[strange1991]

that sounds awesome! Hope you can make that happen, especially with the original cast members getting back into their characters, that will be interesting to see.

[eviltwin]

Jan 29, 2010 2:28:18 GMT -5 jrapsas said:

For the record, the Marshall/Corrine relationship was written into the show bible, before even the first script was written. Here are my character descriptions from the original bible, which was written about three years before the show went into production. As you'll see, Corrine has a different last name and the characters aren't exactly the same as they ended up being in the series:

CORRINE BREYER

Corrine, a fourteen year old African-American girl, is a standout student at Blake Holsey High. Focused and determined, Corrine has always had to be best at everything she’s ever done. You name the class, she’s gotten an “A” in it, while at the same time managing to be a star athlete in both tennis and volleyball. Both her parents are doctors, over-achievers who beat the odds, and they expect nothing less from Corrine. Corrine has no intention of letting them down.

Corrine has always been highly competitive and she’s gotten used to being the only girl in all the tough science and math classes. So she isn’t sure how she feels when Josie joins the club. But rather than being threatened by Josie, Corrine is surprised to find that she likes having another girl around. There isn’t any cattyness between them like with a lot of girls in school and Corrine finds it pretty hysterical when together she and Josie end up showing the guys that science isn’t just a boy’s game.

Corrine and Josie become fast friends and confidants. And when Lucas starts to get angry at Josie for her friendship with Vaughn, Corrine is invariably the one that Josie turns to for advice. But what about Corrine’s social life? Well she’s never been a social butterfly and has always put her academic and athletic activities first. But since kindergarten, she’s had one friend who’s always been there for her. Lately, he’s starting to get on her nerves more than ever. It seems that the older they get, the more they disagree and argue. Still, at the end of the day she can’t imagine what life would be like without Marshall Wheeler.

MARSHALL WHEELER

Marshall, a fourteen year old Caucasian boy, is pretty much what you’d expect to see in a science club. Yes, he’s a geek and he wears the label proudly. After all, with the proliferation of computers and the internet, being a nerd isn’t nearly the form of social leprosy it once was. But he’s still not about to start telling the school that he has every episode of Star Trek: Voyager on tape or that he still collects Pokemon cards. After all, Marshall is at the age where he’s starting to notice girls and he does have a reputation to protect… sort of.

If only girls weren’t so….complicated. Becoming a teenager, Marshall says, is like entering a great unknown. Marshall hates unknowns. That’s why he sticks to things that he knows he’s good at, like math, science and computers. So if he’s so afraid of unknowns, why does he stay in a club where anything and everything can and does happen? Two words. Corrine Breyer. He knows how dangerous the club can be and wouldn’t be able to live with himself if something were to happen to her and he wasn’t there to watch her back. No matter how much they may sometimes annoy each other she’s still his best friend and that’s what best friends are for.

that is so cool! could you post stuff like this for all the characters?