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Post by AuenDestiny on Mar 20, 2005 16:12:12 GMT -5
EI/ei is denoting the program is educational/informational, means the program is approved for 'teaching' something of value. ABC, NBC, and CBS use it. WB has yet to use it. and Fox doesn't air Sat/Kids programs in my area. and not sure if UPN even has any. but all the networks are supposed to use the symbol in accordance with FCC regulations.judging from the JSM, the one you posted, Aveneir is most likely bad. which means victor isnt. victor is probably neutral and really not at all behind whats going on. really, he's probably an innocent bystander, simply trying to get his wife back, his research and machine really the product of sarah's insideous involvement. wasn't talking about Victor, wait until Inquiry for that . was talking about Avenir and what his over all purpose might be. when he said 'well done Josie' it could actually mean many possibilites. was it well done that Josie knew how to reopen the wormhole, or that she proved herself worthy of whatever Avenir has planned for her or that Vaughn went to 1977? and that's just a few possibilities, 'well done Josie' is really an open ended statement, and he only said Josie, none of the others.in the beginning, when victor starts up the machine again, is that grant with him? no Grant. those were two women, one blonde/tallish and other brunette/not as tall, the blonde was closest to Victor.
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kfndawg
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Post by kfndawg on Mar 20, 2005 19:51:01 GMT -5
This was an awesome episode. The interactions between Vaughn and Josie were the best I have seen. Vaughn was at his best with his snide remarks toward Blake and his willingness to sacrifice himself for the others.
The costumes were hilarious. Is it me or does Marshall just crack you up everytime you see him? And seeing Josie in curls was.......uhhh....nevermind.
Mr. Avenir praising Josie raised the red flag too me. He is the evil behind the school, not Victor. He made the science room with the special floors, not Victor. Like I have been thinking for awhile now....Victor is not evil.
Overall, this is definitely a top 5 episode.
I can't wait for next week.
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Post by {88Keys} on Mar 20, 2005 21:48:58 GMT -5
Mr. Avenir praising Josie raised the red flag too me. He is the evil behind the school, not Victor. He made the science room with the special floors, not Victor. Like I have been thinking for awhile now....Victor is not evil. I have never thought Victor was evil. I think Sarah is evil. Booooo! And that she is working with Mr. Avenir. (Sorry; I'm kinda hopped up on cold medicine right now )
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Post by MirrorCard on Mar 21, 2005 3:31:53 GMT -5
I haven't seen it yet. I had to auto-record it. While fast forwarding and rewinding, I was glad to see the brownish atmosphere, also seen in Fate, was employed. Next week's teaser was advertised as the SEASON finale. NOT series finale, so who knows? So, if SDaBHH does end with Inquiry, it will be an unended series... I liked this ep, but I wish I hadn't read the spoilers first. *chuckles* Josie and Mr. Avenear both have red hair... oh no *sighs* and now new fans are going to ask us about this... Josie and Vaughn's bickering was cute. Kind of like a (gasp) real couple. Almost reminds me of my husband and me. *chuckles* wait, that's not funny... first vaughn went back in time, then at a later date went back in time to the same time when he already went back in time. so its almost like a triple. *feels dizzy* Josie enchants every guy she comes in contact with. *spits out water* A bit too typical of a show's leading female character... someone else in Durst's position would indeed have been better. and she couldn't be a direct relation of Durst because back then the female heads of scholastic institutions never usually married. that Durst would not have been Durst grandmother nor great grandmother in any capacity. excellent history point. EI/ei is denoting the program is educational/informational, means the program is approved for 'teaching' something of value. ...WB has yet to use it. ... WB used it when they aired City Guys and California Dreams two years ago.
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Post by {88Keys} on Mar 21, 2005 12:01:56 GMT -5
The more I watch the show, the more convinced I am that Victor is in fact good. I don't know about totally innocent bystander; he did know Sarah was going to the future, and he's always talking about fulfilling your destiny and stuff. But good nonetheless. Heh. Victor's a pimp, too. WB used it when they aired City Guys and California Dreams two years ago. California Dreams?! I thought I imagined that show! Yeah, it was really educational and informative.
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Post by MirrorCard on Mar 21, 2005 15:44:35 GMT -5
California Dreams?! I thought I imagined that show! I taped what I could of it knowing WB wouldn't air it for too long. Got about half the series. While I agree that Valerie playing Headmistress Durst was not too clever on the continuity, because it leads us to believe there is some family relation between her and Principal Durst which seems very improbably because of what Au said mostly, Valerie's acting experience probably made her perfect for the role of the headmistress.
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Post by HailStorm on Mar 21, 2005 16:17:39 GMT -5
Well, technically there's nothing to say that Headmistress Durst did not have a sibling of some sort who did in fact get married and reproduce and 'our' Durst is from that line. I'm not suggesting that there has always been a Durst at Blake Holsey, it's just that every now and then quirks of the family tree can occur and it's a remarkable coincidence that there's a Durst present when the weirdness at Blake Holsey seemingly begins and there's a young Durst present when the Qui-Gong ball sort-of begins (that's complicated with all the time travelling) and there's a Durst present when Josie arrives and it all comes to a head. I think I may have spotted a continuity error: You know how in Robot Durst and Z tell the inspector that the building was originally a monastery? (the old 'they're historical cracks' line) Well, the way Blake was talking, it was implied that the building had just been built or was in the final stages of being built and that it was built for the specific purpose of being a school. So... continuity error or Durst and Z lying through their teeth? California Dreams was supposed to be educational? What was educational about it?
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Post by Mac on Mar 21, 2005 16:54:14 GMT -5
They were lying through their teeth. I could tell while watching Robot long before I saw Past.
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Post by AuenDestiny on Mar 21, 2005 23:25:49 GMT -5
be sure to look for the cgi of the 'area' around the school when it's supposed to look like it's out in the middle of nowhere, you can really tell it's cgi, they should have done better with it.
that's why I said direct relation, as in direct lineage, direct descendant, as opposed to branch lineage. the relation between Past Durst and present day Durst would have to be branch lineage. could not be direct lineage, as I have already said.
it was also said the building is 150 years old, if it was indeed built around 1879 it would only be 120+ not 150.
not only did they mess up on the Durst lineage, Blake would not have been able to escort Josie around the school by himself, that wasn't done back then. historical facts seemed to have been quite overlooked in Past. but Past is still a wonderful episode and one of the best of Season 3, even with the misses.
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Post by Mac on Mar 21, 2005 23:41:46 GMT -5
the cgi of the kite with the lightning was pretty bad too...
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Post by MirrorCard on Mar 21, 2005 23:43:43 GMT -5
I think I may have spotted a continuity error: You know how in Robot Durst and Z tell the inspector that the building was originally a monastery? (the old 'they're historical cracks' line) Well, the way Blake was talking, it was implied that the building had just been built or was in the final stages of being built and that it was built for the specific purpose of being a school. So... continuity error or Durst and Z lying through their teeth? Well, monastery is implied, I think. Monks lived there, she said so we had to put two and two together (Did any of us actualy put two and two together on this or did we read it on a website and then realize?) But on what HailStorm was saying, if the school was built as a school, when did the monks come? In Robot, the monk comment was a reference to the building's true history, I'm sure, but now there is a problem. Perhaps Josie's disbelief of Durst and Z's story to the inspector hints that they were lying to the inspector (even though it is the truth). California Dreams was supposed to be educational? What was educational about it? It had moral lessons. Back when shows like California Dreams and Hang Time were made, the appliance of the "educational" label was apparently different. Educational shows of this era stress academics. Educational shows of that era stress morals. I don't remember learning anything academic from City Guys. Just moral things. it was also said the building is 150 years old, if it was indeed built around 1879 it would only be 120+ not 150. We need some crew explainations done on this episode.
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Post by Mac on Mar 22, 2005 0:08:13 GMT -5
I really think the monestary thing was just lying to the inspector.
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Post by Gouki on Mar 22, 2005 2:44:46 GMT -5
Perhaps Josie's disbelief of Durst and Z's story to the inspector hints that they were lying to the inspector (even though it is the truth). The truth inside the show is different to the truth outside of the show. I'm with Mac, it's obvious they were lying. Even before Past had aired.
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Post by pbellosom on Mar 22, 2005 6:09:36 GMT -5
I agree about them lying. After all what better way to make someone not clsoe down a building than say it is a "holy" place?
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Post by Menack on Mar 22, 2005 16:07:18 GMT -5
Yes, it's obvious they're lying. The inspector was supposed to be a security inspector, and when he saw the cracks and asked abut them to Durst, she and Z said the first thing it came to ther minds.
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