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Post by HailStorm on Oct 20, 2004 15:05:35 GMT -5
Willingness to flirt in public does not = emotional.
I would have immediate reservations about anybody who told me I had an amazing anything in public. It's a bit... creepy, especially when you've literally just met. It's on a par, in my mind, with builders whistling at you from a scaffold. If somebody has amazing eyes, it seems much more sincere if you get to know the person first and then tell them when it makes sense to tell them (and if t doesn't make sense, then that's just life). So chalk up another reason as to why I dislike MirrorMarshall.
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Post by Mac on Oct 21, 2004 14:01:26 GMT -5
Hailstorm, two things.
1) Mirror Marshall was using a pick up line.... he needed something to say to break the ice, and the first line often determines if its a friend or relationship type thing going on.
2) Of course they were stereotyping. The episode Hemispheres is stereotyping. They're polarizing people into logical and artsy. They're making a point. Only Corrine (although, I think regular world Josie too) was bridging the gap between smarts and artsy.
Although, Marshall does play for Magnet 360 in the normal world, so the episode seems to have a bit of a hole in it.
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Post by HailStorm on Oct 21, 2004 14:14:47 GMT -5
Actually, at least three: 1. Marshall is in a band, thus must already be creative and musically tallented. 2. In several episodes there is a music stand with sheet music visible on Corrine's side of the room, once there was a violin and we saw her sing in Storm - so she must study music, a creative art, and be somewhat creative. 3. Josie draws. We see doodles in her diary in Invisible and in Ecosystem, she hands Corrine a CD - the cover is celtic knotwork coloured with colouring pencils in jazzy colours. Also her half of the room's walls are a giant collage and she has a little artist's manequin which she has painted (I'm sure I have a pic somewhere) so she's actually rather creative too. I used to love Hemispheres but now all of the glaring bits of shockingly poor continuity and the stereotying and the generalising have completely put me off it.
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Post by MirrorCard on Oct 21, 2004 14:38:45 GMT -5
2) Of course they were stereotyping. The episode Hemispheres is stereotyping. They're polarizing people into logical and artsy. They're making a point. Only Corrine (although, I think regular world Josie too) was bridging the gap between smarts and artsy. oh my gosh, you're right! (no sarcasm). I never even saw it. I wonder what they were thinking when they wrote Hemispheres. MirrorMarshall seemed especially stereotyped. He seemed to border a gothic person. MirrorVaughn as well. I wonder if Robert objected when if they wanted to put a scene of MirrorVaughn in the introduction. I used to love Hemispheres but now all of the glaring bits of shockingly poor continuity and the stereotying and the generalising have completely put me off it. It is a filler episode. Though now that we are uncoving more and more of the "poor continuity" (I've no other way to word it) that made the episode possibe, it does kind of water down the greatness. Perhaps it is best to watch Hemispheres flat out without much focus on mistakes and too strong analysis. (The Transformers serieses are littered with mistakes and are still great. You basically overlook the errors.) All the C+Mirror-Marshall talk is enough to drive some of us up a wall anyway. Can't it just be "whatever happened in the mirror-world stays in the mirror-world."
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Post by HailStorm on Oct 21, 2004 14:57:48 GMT -5
I for one find it very dissapointing. And irritating too: here's this episode that everybody loves but it's just.. wrong. It ruined it for me for life I'll stop bleating now Anyway, my original point was that you cannot possibly say "MirrorMarshall is the emotional version of Marshall and so that means that Marshall must like Corrine" because, frankly, that's absurd. And also, to be really annoying and nit-picky: She kissed Him. So he was flirty, big deal! Loads of guys are flirty with loads of girls and vice versa but it doesn't mean they seriously want to go out with them. And we're back to the 'does he like her' debate (and remeber, I did point out in the past that you can't say 'Well, they're exact opposites yadi yadi yadaah' because a) we;ve been through that an it is also absurd and b) most C/M shippers have been denying that 'If mirror Marshall does like Corrine then Marshall can't, they're drect opposites') So there *does the bloody irritating dance* I love it when things are straightforward and clearcut and 'down there in black and white' don't you?
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Post by Mac on Oct 21, 2004 23:13:11 GMT -5
straightforward and clear cut is never fun. ;D
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Post by AuenDestiny on Oct 22, 2004 12:48:05 GMT -5
what were the writers going for?
could always be taken this way... think of a person like a magnet...two different ends...a positive and a negative...totally opposite yet part of the same...while a few can find ground somewhere in the middle, most are either positive or negative versions of themselves...regular BHH seems to be the positive end and Hemi BHH seems to be the negative end... basic characteristics exists with both ends...the ends just enhance some characteristics more...to produce the particular version at that end... and for some reason the Janitor wanted Corrine to find her middle ground...most likely knowing full well she would never be able to exist as her negative version...
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Post by HailStorm on Oct 22, 2004 13:47:04 GMT -5
I'm afraid I wouldn't agree with that at all. The majority of people are their middle grounds. They've got good characteristics (eg. generosity, compassion) and bad characteristics (eg. excessive sarcasm, selfish tendencies) and, although they might not admit it, all have logical and creative capabilities (art does have a basis in logic, as does music (you'll know this if you've ever studied them) and 'logical' problem solving often requires creativity). And we've seen that both of the Josies, mirror-version and normal are both creative and logical (Josie draws, MirrorJosie makes a very logical statement about making another mirror). So I would't really say the magnet analogy fits. It would have been nice if this had been a bit more like the Red Dwarf episode 'Demons and Angels' (I was going to write a fic based on that...) but instead of dealing with morality, dealing with lovic versus creativity. So the basic premise of that would be that there is an explosion, two copies of the school are created. One is a version where everybody and everything is purely concerned with logic and reason and the other is a version where everyone and everything is concerned with creativity and emotion - neither seem normal, right or properly functional and we see how the qualities combine in the normal versions - it shows that both are important to function well.
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Post by MirrorCard on Oct 22, 2004 14:50:34 GMT -5
And we've seen that both of the Josies, mirror-version and normal are both creative and logical (Josie draws, MirrorJosie makes a very logical statement about making another mirror). was that "lets create a new mirror" idea really require a lot of thought? It seemed obvious to me.
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Post by HailStorm on Oct 22, 2004 14:54:23 GMT -5
was that "lets create a new mirror" idea really require a lot of thought? It seemed obvious to me. Well, Corrine didn't think of it. And it is a logical conclusion to make (which would be why it was obvious for you, Mr Vulcan)
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Post by AuenDestiny on Oct 22, 2004 16:52:28 GMT -5
it was a nice attempt at explaining what the writers were going for though...*nods*...
maybe they need to give up trying to teach Corrine life lessons...I can think of at six episodes off the top of my head where it did no good...that's one area Corrine is never able to learn anything ...
may be quite simple...but I still think someone just wanted a 'Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass' themed episode...and that's what explains Hemi BHH...
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Post by ashbee on Jan 22, 2010 7:54:26 GMT -5
He does like her cause remember the episode "Friction"? When Vaughn and Corrine got stuck together? Well, Marshall was pretty jealous. And so was Josie. I wished they had showed some more romance between Corrine and Marshall, though. It would have been nice to see her kiss the 'real' Marshall.
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