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Post by FoolNoMore on Nov 15, 2004 13:44:30 GMT -5
but is it in english or not? If it's dubbed they could of changed it so the words fit.
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Post by Menack on Nov 15, 2004 14:31:59 GMT -5
Here in Panama, I think is the new edition. At the end the janitor and josie 2 are telling each other that victor was the good guy, and that josie was meant to give him the ball and something like they donĀ“t know whats going to happen, while josie is looking at was she had done. I do believe is the same as in all latin america. you couldn't be more right
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Post by HailStorm on Nov 22, 2004 10:43:36 GMT -5
Incedentally, proof that Victor Pearson, much feared corridor-stalking, black-suit-wearing, bearded, ethically dubious scary man... used to be a disco dancing fiend: (Yes, you should really click it. Go on. It's worth it )
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Post by zsgirl on Nov 22, 2004 17:12:27 GMT -5
HAHA. i loved Saturday Night Fever! ;D er, i mean uh... hehe, our boy Victor has a thing for the BeeGees and John Travolta! WOW. lol. i wonder if he's still preoccupied with the 1970s...
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Post by Menack on Nov 22, 2004 19:26:44 GMT -5
Probably in the alternate universe of Fate he did...
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Post by Gouki on Nov 27, 2004 1:48:05 GMT -5
Interesting, Australia saw the final episode 6 days after the UK, but we still got the changed ending.
Which is groovy. I want Jim to explore this alternate reality so much.
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Post by JulieMary on Dec 11, 2004 14:56:40 GMT -5
What a funny thing... xDD Well... This is the 'thing' that we can see in the latinamerican ending... And here they're the janitor and JTclon...
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Post by AuenDestiny on Dec 11, 2004 15:28:18 GMT -5
ooooh...they're not in Pearadyne anymore...
*thanks for sharing JulieMary*...
wow...that really has a blue tint to it...looks kind of like a power plant...kind of nuclear in nature...hmmmm...makes me think 'lorax'...
well that's just really really strange...a strange concept...
wonder what's next...
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Post by ICWP on Dec 11, 2004 15:52:55 GMT -5
ooooh...they're not in Pearadyne anymore...
*thanks for sharing JulieMary*...
wow...that really has a blue tint to it...looks kind of like a power plant...kind of nuclear in nature...hmmmm...makes me think 'lorax'...
well that's just really really strange...a strange concept...
wonder what's next... It's probably just the TV settings, since the Janitor's coat (And the wall behind him) is blue too... Interesting though, bigger than I pictured it... It can't be Peardyne, since that was underground. I'd say it's either run by Avineir, Someone of some relation to Tyler, or someone else.
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Post by JulieMary on Dec 11, 2004 16:01:03 GMT -5
Yeah... I think it's the TV settings too... And i dont think thats Peardyne... Well... I dunno... Oh wait a moment! In Wormhole Lucas said to Josie that one of the walls was part of Peardyne... And they were where that 'thing' is...
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Post by Gouki on Dec 11, 2004 21:29:20 GMT -5
Now, this episode makes the main plot of Fate a lot less servicable. Maybe I missed something, but Sarah has links to what I will call the PTB (Powers that Be, for convenience sake). Now, if she was told that Josie was coming, why did the hairclip change everything? Did she need Victor to make contact? Surely not.
And why, if Pearadyne never existed in that reality, did Blake Holsey still exist? And not in this one? Pearadyne must have been a large financer of Blake Holsey, and if not, then why was Blake Holsey shut down? It surely can't have been because Pearadyne became decrepit due to it closing down. Otherwise it should have closed down in the timeline.
Okay, now lets condense this:
Sarah is being contacted by the PTB. She is told about Josie and Victor and the Chi ball. Yet, without the hairclip this is meaningless.
Blake Holsey doesn't exist without Pearadyne in 'Inquiry', yet in 'Fate' it does. This makes no sense.
To continue:
Unless the hairclip is not what mattered. The hairclip was irrelevant, Sarah would not be approached by Victor without the Chi ball. This could be misconstrued though, as it means that Victor was not meant to take the Chi Ball the first time Josie went to 1977. But if he did, then the other timeline wouldn't have existed, Josie should have gone straight back to the main timeline (616 for convenience sake). Not to the clashing timeline.
If I felt like it I could insert a comment about the ever changing nature of time travel. But, if this was indeed pre destined, as it was meant to be, the entire situation is rendered redundant.
To recap:
Sarah is being contacted by the PTB. She is told about Josie and Victor and the Chi ball. Yet, without the hairclip this is meaningless.
The hairclip, however, is the meaningless thing. And the Chi ball (or more importantly lack of) is what stops Sarah from getting with Victor.
Blake Holsey doesn't exist without Pearadyne in 'Inquiry', yet in 'Fate' it does. This makes no sense.
The Chi Ball situation was preordained, and thus Sarah and Victor were meant to be together without the hairclip.
Josie keeping the Chi Ball for more than one trip was a mistake. Victor was meant to take it straight away. But he didn't.
Bascially, I'm just going around in circles with this. Discuss.
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Post by AuenDestiny on Dec 11, 2004 22:10:50 GMT -5
I've always thought it was the floating qigong ball not the hairclip that caused the events to shuffle into the the correct order of the timeline...without the floating qigong ball the events go astray and shuffle into organized chaos...
and Blake Holsey 'School' existed before Pearadyne...not sure BH is dependant on Pearadyne...Victor just likes to think it is...
but in Inquiry...I think BH was closed to stress to Josie the importance of her not keeping the floating qigong ball...and emphasizing the importance of the floating qigong ball's existence and purpose...
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Post by TheKat on Dec 11, 2004 22:18:19 GMT -5
LOL, I was contemplating on clicking on it, and when I read the bottom, I nearly died laughing!
Kaytee
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Post by Gouki on Dec 11, 2004 22:38:13 GMT -5
What are you talking about? Clicking on what? Laughing at what?
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Post by ICWP on Dec 12, 2004 19:11:29 GMT -5
Blake Holsey doesn't exist without Pearadyne in 'Inquiry', yet in 'Fate' it does. This makes no sense. Two completely different events were changed then. In fate, Victor and Sarah never met (We don't know if it was the ball or the hairclip that caused it yet). In Inquiry, they did meet, and Peardyne was started. But then it was shut down during an experiment. We don't know what happened between the two events. And about Sarah 'forseeing' Josie, we don't know how much time elapsed between Josie bringing the ball and Victor showing it to Sarah. Well of course. The ball was the source of energy for Peardyne, even if she knew of it how could she create Peardyne without the ball?
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