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Post by MirrorCard on Jan 26, 2005 20:48:34 GMT -5
and it did have wood grain like real wood. but who would paint a canvas to resemble wood and why would anyone want to buy it? unless Victor was trying to create an illusion of a wood wall, it was strange. yeah, the wall is not wood, so a wood painting that appears like a wall would only stand out more.
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Post by {88Keys} on Jan 26, 2005 21:11:24 GMT -5
I wondered the same thing... it looked like wood to me. Speaking of wood, when Lucas and Vaughn were in the lounge area and Lucas was leaving... didn't he hurt himself and the jewels that belong to his family on the foosball table... those things were sticking out. Lol...I noticed that too! He bumps into it and kind of leans forward a bit and looks a little, um, pained. If he did hit the sweet spot, he covered very well.
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Post by AuenDestiny on Feb 17, 2005 15:21:39 GMT -5
well, this weekend Feb 19/20 Vision airs in US and Canada again.
so what is the opinion of the glowing 'item' at Victor's house? and the opinion of the 'wood painting' at Victor's house?
and who else thinks Vision would be an excellent 'Halloween' or spooky episode? it most definitely has the elements needed...*nods*
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Post by Gouki on Feb 17, 2005 18:33:40 GMT -5
so what is the opinion of the glowing 'item' at Victor's house? and the opinion of the 'wood painting' at Victor's house? So. You want to know what people think what was confirmed as the Chi Ball is and what peole now know as the cover to where the pendant used to be kept? Or am I missing something. [/color][/quote] How is it spooky? In what way does it have the elements?
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Post by Mac on Feb 17, 2005 21:06:30 GMT -5
Just seeing Marshall's skull does not qualify it to be a Halloween episode. And I believe it was the Chi Ball and the painting was just a plain wood wall, but I didnt get a good look at the wall in either Vision or Hologram.
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Post by AuenDestiny on Feb 17, 2005 22:32:16 GMT -5
So. You want to know what people think what was confirmed as the Chi Ball is and what peole now know as the cover to where the pendant used to be kept? Or am I missing something. no. no. and yes. guess I should have been more in depth with my questions.
Victor wouldn't place the floating qigong ball in a clear 'container' in plain sight where anyone could see it, he always keeps it secure and protected. and whatever the 'glowing' item was didn't have the 'characteristics' of the floating qigong ball. must have been something else. and I was asking what's thought it might possibly be (not qigong). and why it was there? seemed out of place, other than to give Lucas a blinding fit.
and I was asking what's thought of the painting or cover not what it is. who would want painting/cover (whatever it is) that looks like wood, wouldn't something else be better? or something smaller? or does anyone think it was the prop department and that it was either cheap or some joke? and it didn't really look like canvas either. it was just strange, an odd item.How is it spooky? In what way does it have the elements? Vision seemed to be a mild version of Jekyll/Hyde to me. and that to me is spooky, panders to the dark side of everyone. excellent classic story. only Lucas was able to survive his experiment, and seemed to learn from his experience. both Vision and Nocturnal would be excellent 'Halloween' episodes, more so than Nanotechnology which was promoted as the Halloween episode in US and Canada.
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Post by MirrorCard on Feb 17, 2005 23:20:24 GMT -5
Victor wouldn't place the floating qigong ball in a clear 'container' in plain sight where anyone could see it, he always keeps it secure and protected. ... and I was asking what's thought it might possibly be (not qigong). and why it was there? seemed out of place, other than to give Lucas a blinding fit. As you're touching upon, Au, Nocturnal and Vision are quite closely themed. Each has an idea set on sight. Victor saw Josie's move before Josie made it. Maybe he saw Lucas's next move too. Of course, that's reaching for an answer. who would want painting/cover (whatever it is) that looks like wood, wouldn't something else be better? A painting of a wood wall is rather suspicious.
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Post by Mac on Feb 17, 2005 23:32:24 GMT -5
Vision had nothing to do with Jekyll or Hyde. Just Lucas seeing through walls. The only halloween bit was the skull part. Nanotechnology has nothing to do with Halloween. Camoflage would be closer, as Tyler is using "costumes". But Nocturnal is the best Halloween episode.
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Post by HailStorm on Feb 18, 2005 6:08:02 GMT -5
If you look closely, you can see that the painting actually is the painting. It has the texture of canvas, not of a wood panel. Although why anybody would get a painting of a wood panel mystifies me. Why not get an actual wood panel that can be moved aside? Huh, I don't know. Maybe it's a rich and stylish thing Money can't buy you common sense, perhaps. It seemed most likely to be the chi ball to me. The world looked very different to Lucas than it did normally when Lucas saw it. His vision was going very, very weird so it's not too big a leap of logic to surmise that what looked like a clear container might not have been clear. Also, the 'pulsing object' was floating, not touching any surfaces, and pulsing with energy, which is what the chi ball does. Just because it didn't look like the chi ball normally looks doesn't mean it isn't it. Remeber, once again, that Lucas's vision was at the height of its weirdness at that point. I can't really spot the jekyl and Hyde themes. Lucas was being a bit of a jerk before he got x-ray vision, it's not like it turned him tEh eVeeeel. And also, he didn't do it out of a desire to sepretate his dark side from his light side so that both could go their merry way without hindering each other. The only similarities are that he played with chemicals (only in this case without consuming any) and ended up in terrible pain. He didn't even have vaguely noble intentions either. I don't see how vision brought out anybody's dark side except for Lucas's. Unless Marshall's dark side is telling tall tales about things that happened to a freind of his brother's friend
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Post by Podkayne on Feb 18, 2005 11:31:35 GMT -5
Victor's art is definitely designed to give the impression that he is a wealthy art collector. His paintings look like they could be the work of famous abstract artists like Mark Rothko or Brice Marden. And if that were so, Victor has lots and lots of money, a Rothko painting was once auctioned for $16 million (US). Personally, I love Victor's art (but I'm an art history major). Anyway, his artwork suits him -- he's incredibly sophisticated, he enjoys owning rare things that other people may not understand or appreciate and he knows that art is a good investment. As a scientist, he likes art reduced to its purest form-- line and color, without representational imagery (people, landscapes, objects) to clutter it up.
And it's yet another indication that the show's producers never talk down to their audience which is a true compliment to all us viewers.
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Post by Menack on Feb 18, 2005 12:17:08 GMT -5
Victor's art is definitely designed to give the impression that he is a wealthy art collector. His paintings look like they could be the work of famous abstract artists like Mark Rothko or Brice Marden. And if that were so, Victor has lots and lots of money, a Rothko painting was once auctioned for $16 million (US). Personally, I love Victor's art (but I'm an art history major). Anyway, his artwork suits him -- he's incredibly sophisticated, he enjoys owning rare things that other people may not understand or appreciate and he knows that art is a good investment. As a scientist, he likes art reduced to its purest form-- line and color, without representational imagery (people, landscapes, objects) to clutter it up. You seem to know him very well. That's strange. >>We all know Victor very well. Why, only last week I had him round for tea and crumpets. Of course, by 'him' I mean a puppet version of him. And by puppet, I mean an old Barbie doll with a beard drawn on in marker. - Hail<<
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Post by TheKat on Feb 18, 2005 14:14:19 GMT -5
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Post by Mac on Feb 18, 2005 16:02:23 GMT -5
Of course the container looked clear, he had x-ray vision..
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Post by AuenDestiny on Feb 18, 2005 23:44:15 GMT -5
As you're touching upon, Au, Nocturnal and Vision are quite closely themed. Each has an idea set on sight. Victor saw Josie's move before Josie made it. Maybe he saw Lucas's next move too. Of course, that's reaching for an answer. *nods* and Hologram interconnected Vision and Nocturnal with the pendant . Vision was also closely themed with Nutrition...both were a mild jekyll/hyde theme of Lucas...he tries to enhance himself and it always ends in disaster. if you think about it, if Nutrition and Nocturnal were combined/mixed you'd get Vision, in my opinion anyway. I really enjoy how the episodes interconnect.
oh, and I think maybe the reason for the two pairs of glasses was to give the idea of jekyll/hyde, the black pair was hyde. *nods*A painting of a wood wall is rather suspicious. *agrees* you would think with Victor's 'resources' he would have had a retractable wall instead of a rather ordinary painting...retractable wall would be like an oversized 'pocket door'.scott I'm talking about when it wasn't 'Lucasvision'. when the viewer could clearly see the container, I saw it and it didn't look like the qigong to me...Lucas should have asked Vaughn "what is that?" before his 'blinding fit' happened...I still don't think Victor would have had the qigong out in the open like that, it's just not Victor style.
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Post by TheKat on Feb 19, 2005 15:21:43 GMT -5
How blind is Lucas? Is he near- sighted? Far- sighted? Or just blind? I wear glasses when I read, am in front of the computer and watching TV... and driving... or sometimes when I feel extra devilish I wear my contacts...
But Lucas, how bad is his sight? He couldn't see anything, he has bad sight. He's neither near- sighted nor far- sighted judging from when the blind fold came off and everyone in front of him appeared blurry. It was only when he put his glasses on he could see them properly. The same goes for when he had to look at the wall to determine if he could no longer see through them... why is Lucas so blind?
Kaytee
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